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In this one case, I’m going to have to buck the trend and say it is not B’s alleged cluelessness about the non-spandex side of life, but his wisdom about it (no, REALLY!) that would prevent any type of matchmaking between Cassie & Tim (assuming the idea occurred to him at all, which as Ken suggests, it probably wouldn’t).
Tim tried a little matchmaking a few fics back, setting her up with Randy-quad, and it just didn’t take. Why? Because as Bruce mentioned once, you yourself don’t choose who you fall for--and certainly nobody else gets to. When Fate isn’t tapdancing on Harvey’s colon, she arranges it so that any 17 year old girl will settle on the one individual certain to make Dad’s neckvein throb.

Ken, as we’ll learn in the conclusion, Greg did indeed pass the test. Ra’s could not, in fact, have decided to forego it in his zeal to replace Ulstarn, because that’s just not the way DEMON works, from the top down they are very: we do it this way because we always have. (Kind of like the way they build flats in the sceneshop – in fact, it suddenly occurs to me Ra’s might be a distant relation of the TD at my old theatre. That would explain SO MUCH!)

--sidenote: about the coffee/keyboard, Cashmere does it to me all the time.

>> as Selina herself noted in this chapter - he is learning. So maybe there's some hope after all.

I had the same thought. If he can manage to see the parallel: those feelings being an outgrowth of budding humanity in Cass, which god knows we’re all in favor of.

PA: I’m not sure what Cecily Grenville can have done to inspire such ire, other than be named for an Oscar Wilde ingénue, which I grant you is annoying but is surely Mrs. Grenville’s doing, not Cecily’s herself.

As for handling “this travesty/insanity” of the teen bats’ choosing romantic partners other than the ones you would prefer, I submit that the real question is not how long you can handle it but how long B can. So, moving along…

Harv would like me to reiterate that there is no “Two-Face/Harley thing” it is all a big misunderstanding. There is no romantic spark there whatsoever such as occurs between destined hearts. There was just his Darth Duality side looking at a nearby female with a certain degree of lust, but even Darth has to admit that one well-made woman looks very much like any other in tight red and black leather, and he would just as soon find one that doesn’t land him being referred to as the triangle (or any other polygon) at Arkham.
Now some here may think the Schizo protests too much, but we’re not the ones he needs to convince. The question is how well that explanation will fly at the Hacienda and the Greenhouse, respectively.

>> regarding the In-character/out-of-character review thing…

There aren’t “rules” per se, it’s just a bit of fun. It is mostly, not so much the RPGers as those of us writing Fics within the Catverse that indulge tho. No hard and fast rules against it, but I don’t recommend anyone begin channeling these characters on a whim. If you do it right – not just artificially putting your ideas/opinions into the mouth of some character (which is where bad fanfic comes from and is very easy to spot) - but genuinely understanding the char and letting them speak, they are not so easy to shut up when you’re through.

Stephensmat: New award for lines I get to pull from a review and just behold the magnificence.

>> It’s not a problem. Unless batman intervenes…

Ha. HaHa. HAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!


>> assuming for an instant that he were inclined to help it along, he wouldn’t have a clue how anyway…

You know I had forgotten until reading this that he actually did try a little matchmaking back at Halloween with Alfred and that woman from the mythology museum. His attempt was not stellar, and it wasn’t successful – but to be perfectly fair, it wasn’t any worse than what you or I might come up with.


>> Bruce… having a bad week where strategy was concerned.

Yes and no. We are maybe inclined to see his failures and not his successes because of a) years of the Gotham Post forcefeeding an impossibly perfect inhuman and sterile uberbat, and b) because he focuses so relentlessly on the failures and setbacks himself. But for every oops like “can’t have operatives smitten with someone that high in DEMON” there are usually 2 or 3 masterstrokes, like the cataloging of informants and brilliant demonstrations of cat-handling, that he doesn’t even notice he does.


>>“Dumb-Ass-Things-That-The-Batman-Has-Said” hall of fame:

Whew, well I guess Dumb-Ass-Stupid is in the eye of the beholder.
Personally I always thought “a crimefighter loving a thief” was one of his finest moments. He used the L-word. The humorless, obsessive, repressed, badass of justice transcended an unhealthy deadend mindset and said the L-word.

I don’t want to seem like I’m picking on you here, but I do want to draw a big red circle around that idea - breaking out of the box – because that concept is going to be back.

Most of the other ones I’ll give you. Now several occurred in a Hell Month, when we know Bruce is rather emotional, but what strikes me more is how they all amount to speaking from the heart which, all by itself, is a huge development for B. That he allows himself to be that at ease with Selina, not strategically weighing every word and utterance but being himself, is a big step towards personhood. Yes, sometimes he steps in it. Everyone does. Human. Not ludicrously perfect uberbat. It works. J

>> Selina’s view of the batman/batgirl argument. What? ‘Estrogen solidarity’ doesn’t apply here Selina?

Estrogen Solidarity is more Barbara’s rallying cry. Selina has gone along a few times, and she’s apparently said it at least once in HQ’s hearing, but for the most part, she is a cat. She never lets anything but how she feels right now determine what she will do or who’s side she might take.
Int his case, she did consider stepping in she saw BG was getting herself in too deep – which isn’t bad, considering S has never really felt much connection with Cassie.


>> Tell a teenager ‘NO!’ and they’ll take it to mean: ‘I dare you!’

I wonder if you’ve noticed something interesting here. When it was Alfred and the cats, Bruce understood that principle beautifully. When it was HIS issue with the cats (Whiskers sniffing around the clock) he didn’t get it at all. And with Cassie it’s the same thing.
It would seem BRUCE is the clearer head here, whereas Batman (thus far) can’t sublimate the control freak even to pursue a strategy that will work.


Dein!
>> wouldn't a Two-Face/Harley/Joker/Ivy problem be a pentagram rather than a rectangle? Since Harvey being, you know, two people and all....

Um, Joker said something like that at the Iceberg once in an early Fic. It started quite a brawl as memory serves.



>> a Joker-Ivy relationship

Okay, I know you just said that to get the obligatory even-numbered swat from Harv, and that’s fine.
But it probably is worth mentioning that (not speaking of anyone here!) some unattached males and females will simply NEVER be couples -no matter how much particular braindamaged fans campaign for it- because they are fundamentally incompatable. Ivy and Joker DETEST each other. It’s not a cute subterfuge hiding tender feelings, they hate each other. If Joker fell down dead, it would make Ivy’s whole year. She would waltz around Arkham humming showtunes and causing blossoms that can’t even grow in Gotham soil to start sprouting up thru the concrete.

Speaking of which *reaches out window for Allaine and dusts him off* there, there. All better. No joker. Think happy thoughts. Lush green fields or chocolate chip cheesecake, sunshine & puppydogs, whatever floats your boat.