As for the latest chapter, I'm afraid I want to agree with Batman regarding Riddler. This is almost too easy.
Waiting with baited breath for the finale.
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Chris, I'll try hold on to my horses regarding the off stage characters and the teasers earlier in the story.
As for the latest chapter, I'm afraid I want to agree with Batman regarding Riddler. This is almost too easy. Waiting with baited breath for the finale. |
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Fett One.gothampm |
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I wouldn't be surprised if things turn out to be a lot more simpler than they appear. I could be reading this wrong but I get the impression that Eddie
invited Selina along so that he can hang out with a friend and in doing so cause Bruce to stop thinking clearly because he will keep suspecting an ulterior
motive that isn't there. This in turn will throw Batman off, which means things will be much more challenging, which is something Eddie would want after
how badly things were going trying to deal with strictly Superman.
With the way Bruce is acting in this chapter you would think he was getting an early start on Hell Month. Almost makes you feel bad for whatever rogue encounters him as soon as he returns to Gotham. Whoever that person should be, they better hope they ahve a good doctor. |
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I hate you, Chris! Okay, not really, I just hate reading a chapter and getting caught up in the story and then . . . it ends. I need to stop trying to figure
out Eddie's plan, too. It's giving me a headache.
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Nodrogs |
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Great new chapter. If Superman focusses too much on the obvious, Batman focusses too much on the obscure, the 'just because'. Sure, with the Riddler,
sometimes that's the whole key to the mystery. Other times, it's just something to do.
Personnally, I'm curious to see Riddler's reaction after seeing Big Blue. He has to figure his current lair is compromised... if Superman knows he's there, that meens Batman probably knows. Now, while in Riddler's mind the Einstein notebooks would be a perfect prize, it's not noticably cat worthy. That got me searching for references between Einstein and cats. So far, I found two: You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. --Albert Einstein, when asked to describe radio. Schrodinger's cat, we've all heard of. But did you know Einstein had a cat too (a real one)? The poor cat would get depressed whenever it rained and Straus once overheard Einstein telling it, "I know what's wrong, dear fellow, but I don't know how to turn it off." http://www.msduniya.net/2006/03/einsteins-cat.html Ok, it seems to me that if Riddler did get his hands on the notebooks (or if he has to give up on them), his next step might be some sort of weather control or telecomunication system, especially one (given the nature of the quote) involving quantum physics. A communication system that, say, had unlimited range and/or FTL/Instantaneous speed would be EXTREMELY valuable, and might just be the thing someone at Star Labs is working on. ON the other hand, there has been at least one villian in the Superman universe who controlled the weather, and that could certainly be useful technology also. Or, I might just be meowing down the wrong tree. |
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Hmm... Interesting.
I'm beginning to feel that the Einstein notebooks were a 'clue crime', something to add flavour to the search for Eddie's ultimate objective. The question that remains to be determined (as Bruce and Clark have rightly pointed out) is: Is Selina's presence a clue, a distraction or just for the sake of having a friendly face around? I get the impression that the look at the art museum is just a shot in the dark based on Eddie's "catworthy" comment. I suppose it is worth a try, though...
I liked the pace of this chapter. Everything happened in a way that was enjoyable. It didn't have too much detail or too little. Overall a good bit of technical work with all the characterisation and humanity that we expect from 'Cat Tales'. I particularly liked Selina's reaction to the bomb hoax. It isn't her style, but I think she is beginning to realise that her good friend Eddie might just be as dangerous and nearly as amoral as Jack. If she decides that he is a threat, then she will certainly help Bruce and Clark hunt him down. I also liked Lois' relieved response to the news about Einstein. See, Lois? It isn't just you! Particularly interesting was that she is considered sufficiently 'part of the team' for Bruce to
'borrow' her to help smooth over certain PR cracks in attempting to control the story in such a way that doesn't either feed Eddie's ego or
makes him bolt.
I didn't realise that there was more to come! Now I'm panting for the continuation! Good job! BenRG's Rating: 8.5/10 ~*~*~*~
They call me BenRG But... I don't know why... ~*~*~*~ |
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Oh ChrisDee! Pleeeeeease post soon and reveal what Superman did in New Zealand!!!!!!!!!! I know begging is unseemly and something any cat is (a) above and (b)
will ignore no matter how much you want that cat to get off your book so you can read, but being left hanging always makes me throw dignity away.
So, yeah - excellent chapter! Also, I had no more idea than Superman what Mozart's Dice Game was and was intrigued to see, along with a description of the mucial dice game online, a comment that made me think Riddler and Mozart are two of a kind: There is no doubt that the process is effective - an (almost) infinite number of waltzes can be generated, and each one has the distinct sound that is attributed to Mozart. ... It is also disappointing to realize that, while each generated new work does have its subtle differences, nothing extraordinary or excitingly new will ever be produced. This is mainly because Mozart has composed the phrases to follow a strict harmonic structure that remains unchanged in every new generation. The reason that he has done this is obvious - it is the easiest way to guarantee that each generation will sound correct (however this does come at the cost of spontaneity). As well as the realization that Mozart made things easy for himself by enforcing this rigid harmonic structure on the phrases he composed, I was heartened to discover that such a great composer could be accused of "cheating" a little, and of "cutting corners". The lack of spontanity and adhernece to a rigid structure sounds an awful lot like RIddler to me. And the cheating. Let's hope Riddler doesn't end up in a paupers' grave as well. Evil Overlord's List Rule 42: "When I capture the hero, I will make sure I also get his dog, monkey, ferret, or whatever sickeningly cute little animal capable of untying ropes and filching keys happens to follow him around." |
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After the first dozen paragraphs, my first thought was: "These are some great quotes!" What better way to complement the title of Chapter 7, and
the focus of Riddler's latest crime? The miscellaneous tidbits on Einstein were very interesting, particularly the spelling thing (I knew Lois would be
interested in that one. However, one would think that the "spellcheck" feature on the computers of the Daily Planet would help compensate for her
poor spelling abilities when she's composing her latest article!).
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I've been lurking here for the whole story, and I have to bring up something that I haven't seen explored so far - Clark's attempts at flirting
with Selina.
Now, the fact that he's been remarkably pathetic in his attempts aside, what fascinates me is that Bruce and Selina keep missing said attempts. I mean, I know Clark was raised like a human, thinks like a human, and has human feelings. And considering that Bruce has been flirting with Lois right in front of Clark for goddess only knows how long... That's got to wear on a man, even a Superman, but since Clark truly considers Bruce a friend, he accepts it as "just ribbing." But from the standpoint of a guy, well, Bruce finally has someone in his life that he cares about as much as Clark cares for Lois. And for Clark this would be time to get even - except that every attempt so far has fallen completely flat because they can't see beyond the fact he's Superman. The problem is, neither Bruce nor Selina seem to be able to see the "man" inside the Superman. Bruce seems to simply think Clark is off his rocker, and Selina seems to find it all a bit creepy - mainly because this is Spit Curl, the ultimate Boy Scout, and ANY attempt at flirting on his part just seems, well, not "Super." I also love that it took Bruce so long to figure out Clark was prompting him on Selina's dress, as well. Although I tend to agree with Bruce and Selina in that they don't need a ring and a ceremony to be devoted to each other, I know these little hints come from Clark because he truly wishes them to do so. Oh, and my guess at why Riddler send Selina the clue? It's twofold - on one hand, Spit curl obviously needed Bruce's help to be a worthy opponent. On the other hand, Eddie's madly in lust with the idea of Selina. I don't think he wanted "help," per se, I think he just wants a woman around who can keep up with him. Even if she is shacking up with "the Enemy."
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So, was anyone else truely surprised by the reason for Eddie's inclusion of Selena in his most recent schemes? I know I was, but in hindsight, it makes
perfect sense. Of course, that's one of the hallmarks of truly excellent writing.
On the antics of Batgirl and Robin, and the entire episode of Eddie in the desk:
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Fett One.gothampm |
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I was surprised by the reason for Selina being included. Now that we know his reason, I'm curios to see what he plans to do to resolve this issue.
I can't believe Clark did what he did at the party. I really want to know what Lois reaction to that is. As for Robin and Batgirl, that was funny.
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Well, I'm a Riddler fan, so I have to say I have mixed feelings about the ending of this story. Part of me wants Nygma to take the advice, because I like
him and want to see him happy. The other part of me doesn't see how he can be a criminal and with Doris, which meens he'll have to retire from
villianry.
For post-criminal employment, perhaps Nygma should contact Clark Kent about how to get a book published... I'm sure some of Nygma's previous schemes, suitably edited, would make very interesting reading for mystery-lovers; just as long as he remembered that the everage ready doesn't want to stop every ten minutes to have to solve an anagram to see what's going on. I *Did* get the Selina Party Girl one before reading the answer, and the one in the epilogue. Anyway, interested to see what the rogues will do with an Iceberg that's been melted down... I hope this doesn't send Sly back to Key West. With Riddler recovering from his run in with Superman, and Two-Face now back to one face, who could go after him? |
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Well! That was an interesting, and unexpected, conclusion! I won't add too much in the way of spoilers. However, it suffices to say that
Chris has once again reminded us that a lot of the Rogues are crazy and we would be fools to forget it. Overall this was a great story with a lot of pace, plenty of laughs and something to always keep you coming back for more. I enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to the mysteries... of... "The Vault" (dah-duh-dummm!) BenRG's Rating: 8.5/10 I might have to start rating out of 20 to get more nuance into my scores!
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From A Midsummer's Night Dream:
"In this same interlude it doth befall That I, one Snout by name, present a wall; And such a wall, as I would have you think, That had in it a crannied hole or chink." Riddle Me Tropolis was a fun read on many levels, but what I really loved was how Chris Dee obviously had a lot of fun toying with the fourth wall. It struck me in this addition to the Cat Tales collection that it seemed Chris Dee strode across the top of the fourth wall as nimbly as any cat burglar, and then, from that vantage point, curiously peered into the DC world(s) on one side and our world on the other, and proceeded to take whatever struck her fancy from both sides, without any worries about what is "allowed" or "copyrighted." In a word: "pfft." It's hard to tell whether this is the comic book world with elements of our own thrown in, or our world that just happens to have crime fighters and villains added on. The truth is this is purely Chris Dee / Catwoman's world - which means that it is whatever she wants it to be. This is a world with Superman, The Daily Planet, Bruce Wayne, Catwoman, kryptonite and STAR Labs. It's also a world with Teri Hatcher, Heroes, George Lucas, CNN, the Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Catherine Zeta Jones's ass. Chris Dee makes the two worlds mesh seamlessly in a way I doubt very few others could. At first glance this seems almost trivial, but take a good look at the DC movies, cartoons and comic books and you see a decided lack of objects and people from our world, replaced with generic store brands to avoid any licensing issues. In the movies Bruce Wayne is on the cover of Timely rather than Time, in the cartoons Superman gets breaking news from a non copyrighted group of letters rather than CNN, and in the comics Dick Grayson will never get back from patrol and pour himself a bowl of Count Chocula - it will be something like Chocolate Flakes or Duke Chocalty. These trademark avoidances jars the viewer a little bit, a little ping that momentarily shakes you out of suspicion of disbelief and disrupts the story's flow. Chris Dee says "pfft" to that and blends together fact and fiction flawlessly. Also, it's a lot more fun to read the real thing than to put up with the quickly tiresome coyness that writers, animators and film directors use to imply but never come out and say when dealing with real life factors. The total awesome blend of fact and fiction gets to the point in Chris Dee's stories where I wouldn't be surprised to see Selina reading the Arts and Entertainment section of the Gotham Times and see an article stating that "Joss Wheadon, citing creative differences, has walked away from scripting a bio-pic about the life and times of Wonder Woman." So yeah, this story was a lot of fun to read. But then! But then Chris Dee decides to really have fun with a little dress up: Chicago more or less plays herself here. The city is treated as a character in her own right, and rightly so. The Chicago museums, restaurants, theaters, history, cuisine, buildings and skyline all gamely come along for the ride, all needing only the slightest of tweaks to look right on stage. Gotham/New York has long been a character in previous tales and now Chicago gets to join in as Metropolis - "the city of tomorrow." The Chicago World's Fair of 1933 with its emphasis on Art Deco structure, new inventions and theme of "progress" probably had an influence on many of the writers of the Golden Ages of Comics when they had to create backgrounds for their heroes. Most of this story's description of Metropolis read as little thank you notes to Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel - the original fanboys who gave us Superman. We see a main road named the Joe Shuster, and Wrigley Field is here renamed Siegel Field. The New York versus Chicago style pizza debate becoming the Metropolis versus Gotham style pizza debate was a delightful background detail, and one of the funniest parts of Riddler's rant. As for Riddler's complaints about the amount of meat thrust upon him - Eddie, darling, you've moved to the city that pretty much invented modern beef in all it's artificially enhanced glory. Didn't you ever read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle? Poor Eddie - although I have to question the brain power of a man who chose the same as hiding place as the luckless prisoner in His Girl Friday. Then in the party scene - the "Attention Criminals Who Want Our Stuff, We're Having A Party" Party" as Catwoman points out, Chris Dee lets her characters take over the fourth wall narration. Catwoman seems to quite enjoy perching on the fourth wall and pointing out the ludicrousness of this type of event which is repeated endlessly in all mediums with never a lesson learned as socialites, museums, and charity events insist on draping themselves in stealable objects, doing everything but sending an actual card to the villains inviting them to crash the party. Meanwhile Batman points out that, as villains go, mind controlling starfish are pretty lame. And Perry gets to a rant a little about our side of the world, namely the war against nicotine and caffeine. Poor Perry. I hope we get to see him later and find out if he develops any coping strategies. Then, after all the excitement of Metropolis, we come back to Gotham and find out that Bruce and Selina can't turn their backs on the Bat-family for a few hours without the Iceberg burning down and Robin landing himself in a hospital with no policies for capes. And we still don't know what happened when Superman went to New Zealand, which is really bugging me. Plenty of threads left hanging here to be look forward to next time! So, in short, Chris Dee - you rock. Evil Overlord's List Rule 42: "When I capture the hero, I will make sure I also get his dog, monkey, ferret, or whatever sickeningly cute little animal capable of untying ropes and filching keys happens to follow him around." |
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Clark finially got the flirting right! And what a reaction too! I'm surprised Bruce didn't at least hesitate when Eddie suggested the Kryptonite. It
was good timing too as I'd swear Bruce was planning a much more violent responce to Eddie's presence before that little scene. Batman was practically
considerate in his intereactions with Eddie after that. This probably isn't the last we've seen of the Superman-flirts-with-Kitty as I'm not sure
Batman connected the cause and effect of the situation yet. When it happens again, I wonder if Batman will start checking Superman for starfish or if he'll
enact some obscure protocol for flirty metas.
That bit of pycho-analysis Bruce did on Eddie was spectacular. I never saw it coming, but it fit all the evidence. I hope we see a bit more of Dorris. I have a vague picture of her as a semi-attractive, practical, no-nonsense woman who can tolerate the Riddler. 'Course, it's been a while since I've read a story with her in it, so that could be off. It'd be interesting to see Eddie bring her to Selina so they 'could be friends'
Wow, while Batman's away, the kids burn down the Iceburg. I wonder if other superheroes have this kind of thing happen to them? I can't imagine how the villians will handle this. No place to get together and brag? No place to hash out the latest heist or recruit hench-persons? They'd go insane! Oh, wait...guess that's not really an issue. Well, it was wonderful as always! Looking forward to the next adventure! |
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Well first things first: AZRAEL CALLED IT! I so wanted to give him a pat on the back at the time for zeroing in on Clark's frustrated flirting situation, but I couldn't tip my hand. Way to go for picking up on such an understated character point. Fangirl, yowza, you're going to turn my head. Thank you for the kind words. I think I picked up on the humor potential of brand name dropping from Sarah Bernhardt's early routines. I do find it adds a little something. And bless you for seeing Metropolis as a character as much as Gotham has been in various tales. I hoped it would be, being in the title and all. Delighted it came through. Ben! I always love your rundowns and insights. If it's to be a 20-point scale, so be it, just don't ever quit with the words above the numbers. "That bit where Selina flashes Bruce in their hotel room is 100% Catwoman" You're not the only one to zero in on that. I gather some readers felt there wasn't enough Bat/Cat working together after the intro on the plane. I'm glad the final chapter made up for that to whatever small degree. I could say more but will save something for the chat. If you haven't attended before and wish to, it's a good idea to try out the chatroom in advance and make sure your browser is cooperating. If you have any problems, make sure java is turned on and up to date. If you cannot attend but want to submit a question, you can PM or email me.
--Chris Dee
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*Snerk*
Actually, I'd love to get my hands on the non pg version of Selina flashing Bruce. I know it would derail my thoughts completely too, but it was bruce working out WHY it would do it (IE Cave mindset vs Not in the cave) that actually made the scene. You know what really got my attention, though was the way Bruce handled Eddie at the end... And proved that words can actually hit harder than fists! Am I understanding this correctly, though? That Supes welded Eddie into one of the robot hulks to keep him out of trouble till the police got there? Might make for an interesting bit of story why. And Chris, remind Selena that of all the excuses why, blaming it on the shrimp is probbobly the best one. Why? cause everyone knows seafood is finiky, and one piece could have gone bad without affecting th others...
"I was an Otaku before those kids came along and changed the meaning of the word."
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Two chapters for the price of one posting. Now that's what I call a bargain!
Fair to say we've hit a new milestone in Robin/Batgirl conflicts. or Minor by which ID? I can't wait to see how this upset in the Gotham Nightlife will affect Swiss banking in the next Cat-Tales!
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First off, great chap. I can't gush as eloquently as some of the previous posters :p.
One thing that got me thinking though was what Batfan7 said about not really remembering how Doris really is. We all have a certain "picture" of how a person is but sometime it's far from the truth. In Eddie's case it's already been alluded to that while he's not in love with Seline he IS in love with the "idea" of Selina. IE "for a woman who can keep up". I can't help but feel maybe he's got a "perfect" image of Doris in his mind that really doesn't reflect the Doris of reality. Darn it, I missed the chat :( . hopefully the transcripts will be up soon :D. |
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Thanks ichigenka, I have a work situation today (drama queen uprising, beating them back now), but I should be able to get the transcript up tomorrow. I will
also do my best to provide a physical description of Doris should she appear again, and who knows maybe a picture to accompany her eventual listing in the
Wiki.
--Chris Dee
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