Iron Man Lives Again!

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Random Equinox		#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 292 05/19/08 13:27	This Iron Man n00b finally got to see Iron Man last night. Even after two weeks, the theatre was pretty packed. I shudder to think what the crowds'll be like for The Dark Knight. Anyways... First, let's get the quibbles out of the way. I see where Chris was getting at regarding the sex scene: I'd choose the words "rubber ball", but "frenzied" works, too. Second, I'd read an article where the actor who played "Raza" regarded that character as a three-dimensional individual, and tried to bring some humanity into him. To be honest, I'm not convinced. Unless you equate "human" with "can bleed/get burned/get killed", there was no real development of that character. And lines like "A man with a dozen [Iron Man suits] can rule all of Asia" don't help (not to mention it shows just how limited this guy's scope and vision is). If he didn't get (a lot of) help (and those who saw the film know the source of that help), he'd just be a two-bit D-list threat. Nothing more. Now for the good stuff. The plot flowed well, and had lots of fun action without being a disgusting orgy of special effects and explosions. All the main characters were well casted, and had a reasonable amount of time to introduce them and give a taste of who they are. I had heard a rumor that the evolution of Jeff Bridges's character was rushed. Having seen this movie, I have to disagree: while the mentor relationship between Obadiah with Tony was established, I didn't feel it was layered on that thick. Consequently, it was easy to peel away the layers to get to the "real" Obadiah. Spoiler [+] It was certainly more believable than Ra's mentor/villain switch in Batman Begins (though I have much more knowledge of Batman, so it may not be that fair a comparison, and the reveal on the true identity of Ra's was kinda neat). While I'm comparing the two films, I might as well add that I found the flashback in Iron Man to be less jarring than the multiple back-and-forth in Batman Begins (or maybe I need to watch more movies. Who knows?). Anyways, I can't remember the last time (if there even is a last time) I saw a movie with Robert Downey Jr. or Jeff Bridges, but if this movie is any indication of the calibre of their skill, I'm definitely intrigued. I'll agree that some characters were given a little short shrift, but keep in mind this is an origin film. Spoiler [+] For example, Pepper may not have been developed substantially, but I thought she got enough screen time to establish her as a intelligent woman who has a certain amount of professionalism and efficiency (despite brief lapses of judgement, she never actually crossed a certain line, which is surprising in movies these days), as well as a well-timed snarky and sarcastic streak (everything from the well-deserved line about "taking out the trash" to the reminder about the woman who stood by the man through thick and thin, and was rewarded by getting stood up (amongst other things). They needed to focus on the evolution from Tony Stark, Playboy to Tony Stark, Playboy/Hero, with particular emphasis on the evolution of Iron Man (which I loved, BTW). The tweaking and testing of the Mk. II was fun, fun, fun (the audience was laughing at each and every snafu that cropped up during the testing phase). The Mk. III was awesome, each and every time it was taken out for a spin. Spoiler [+] The final obligatory and predictable fight scene was pretty good. According to Wikipedia, in the comics, Tony knew Obadiah made his version based on old designs, which meant its weaknesses were incorporated into the prototype, and used that knowledge to his advantage. Iron Man fans would probably be pleased to see that was carried over to the movie as well. Not exactly the same situation, but the concept was there, in a way that makes sense--thus maintaining the sense of disbelief and not interrupting any enjoyment on the part of the viewer. Finally, yes, I saw the Easter Egg. Nice. Not a guarantee that I'll see anything that might come out of it, but nice, nonetheless.
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stephensmat2		#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1182 05/31/08 22:36	http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4291972/1/The_Invincible_Iron_Man
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DorothyTRose		#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 219 06/03/08 21:23	Meow! Finally saw Ironman. I'm still not a big fan, but it was a good movie and I did enjoy it, so I'll probably buy it when it comes out. ^_^ So few people really appreciate the cache of an unanswered question. --Cat-Tales: Something Borrowed
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Random Equinox		#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 292 06/08/08 19:46	Finally finished stephensmat2's movie novelization/fanfic. I see you incorporated the one-shot you wrote earlier this year. Many of my comments about the movie applies to your fan-work as well. In addition, I enjoyed the flashbacks you used to expand Tony Stark's history and influence the man he became. The way you emphasized certain Iron characters was a nice touch, too. By that, I don't just mean adding capitals around phrases like "War Machine", though that was a nice touch, but also the way you looked at different scenes through the ideas of other people like Rhodes and Pepper (and how the antics of one Tony Stark can annoy, frustrate or worry the heck out of them). Well done! Last Edited By: Random Equinox 06/08/08 19:54. Edited 1 time.
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Coralskipper.dubthistheforum		#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 138 06/08/08 21:52	I saw the movie twice and enjoyed it each time. Admittidly the second time I saw the movie was more to avoid seeing the new Indiana Jones movie, but it's still very good. Damon Runyon once said, "Ninety-five percent of sports tradition is fiction. Lies, if you like. But harmless. Who the hell cares if the facts get twisted?"
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stephensmat2		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1182 06/11/08 03:11	Random Equinox wrote: ... the way you looked at different scenes through the ideas of other people like Rhodes and Pepper (and how the antics of one Tony Stark can annoy, frustrate or worry the heck out of them). Well done! Yeah, I wanted to do it that way because one of the Movie critiques I agreed with was that Iron Man was the Robert Downey Jr Show. I wanted to get in some of the other characters heads for a while, since Stark had the whole film revolving around him. And thanks for the reassurance too RE. I was a bit worried about adding the background scenes since I was making them up, but montage scenes are hard to novelize so I figured that would be the place to do it. Many thanks for the kind words RE.
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stephensmat2		#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1182 05/01/09 01:11	http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2009/05/01/ironman2x-large.jpg It starts. #Sigh# Don't expect me to be of much use.
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