Cat-Tale 54: War of the Poses

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Chris Dee	Cat-Tale 54: War of the Poses		Lead	[-]
Posts: 731 10/29/07 09:43	Tags : cattales, batman, catwoman, new, story All Sly wanted was to get through Vault's opening night without running out of bourbon. He never meant to crown Catwoman queen of the underworld. Nevertheless... Chapter 1 now available on the Cat-Tales website and FanFiction.net --Chris Dee "Do you, Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle promise to forsake all others and reserve your warped, angst-ridden, dysfunctional nincompoopery for each other, thereby saving at least two innocent people and providing untold hours of fascinated diversion to the rest of us who might otherwise think WE have screwed up relationships!" --Catfight
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Kessie.gothampm		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 166 10/29/07 12:03 PuddyCat Detective (PCD)	Ooo, I love that last paragraph... Just bodes how things can go downhill. Looking forward to more.
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Random Equinox	Re: Cat-Tale 54: War of the Poses	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 256 10/29/07 12:28	War of the Poses...as in posturing? Stopping and enjoying some time in the limelight? Hmm... Well, the Dark Knight's grumpiness in Gotham and at the JLA (tough break, Plas) definitely smacks of PsychoBat. Mind you, there's more to this than a mere round of pomposity: an influx of criminals and a concentration of crime on a specific area of Gotham is never good news. Selina sure is enjoying her newfound fame. From her arrival in the "Catmobile" (snort. Love the moniker. Love the fan art (never thought purple would look so good!)) to entertaining VIP guests, she certainly is playing the part of the Queen. She may be right in that this is just a fad, with the short-lived longevity that goes with such phenomena. The problem is: how long will it last, how long will it last before someone get hurt and how severe the injuries would be. Mind you, it looks like Selina's willing to accept some responsibility for encouraging (implicitly or otherwise) an East End smackdown. Unfortunately, it appears that she won't make any concrete gestures while PsychoBat's still roaring around. So...Joker's making progress? Guess Dr. B's patience is finally paying dividends...or is it? So...will Bruce back down before Selina? Vice versa? Or will they continue to posture and hurl barbs before deciding to gasp! compromise? Is this breakthrough in Joker's therapy for real, or just a affected facade? And who is the mysterious well-dressed stranger in the last paragraph? Looking forward to seeing how the "war" progresses. Edit: My bad--Joker was just pulling Dr. B's leg. Upon re-reading the chapter, though, it will be interesting to see whether Harley's actually making some progress, or whether this is another battle of minds to parallel the one going on between Bruce and Selina. Last Edited By: Random Equinox 10/30/07 11:16. Edited 1 time.
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Letomo		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 22 10/29/07 14:16	Well, the name War of the Poses seems a take off of the War of the Roses, from European History. If I recall correctly, it was a civil war between two branches of a single family. Which is what we seem to be having here. The man with the expensive suit and Limo? Could this be Batman's doing, creating a 'crime'Lord to take over Gotham from Catwoman, and thus end her 'fun'? It would certainly lead to an interesting civil war, now wouldn't it?
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Fett One.gothampm		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 47 10/29/07 22:14	I wouldn't be surprised if Bruce is some how connected to that guy in the limo. Since Selina wasn't willing to give up her position, getting someone to usurp it sounds like something he would do. It gets her out of the way before it causes harm to their relationship and puts someone he controls into the position.
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BenRG	War of the Poses - Chapter 1	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 282 10/30/07 05:37	Whew! Sorry about the late review, ladies and gents. I was busy yesterday. Okay, I've read through the story on FF.net. This looks like it is going to be one of the better Cat Tales already. It has all the elements that we want - There is fun at Arkham, the younger BatClan members being themselves and, most importantly, Bruce's ambivilence about Selina's nature and Selina stoking the fire by being... well, her, I guess. The first thing that comes to my mind is that this chapter reveals a significant flaw in Selina's personality (if you want to call it a flaw - a personality 'quirk' might be just as accurate). Simply put, sometimes, like a cat, she cannot help but play with a toy. In this case, she has allowed herself to get so 'in character' with her role at The Vault that she is forgetting the dual nature of that role. More importantly, she is forgetting that most universal of facts - those are real people out there. As much as tormenting the East Side for its associations with goggles!Catwoman might be fun, there are innocent people being caught in the crossfire. Worse, because it is fun, she ignores how Bruce will react and, because she is used to him being uptight, initially ignores his reaction. Like any happy cat, she is mischievious and playful. Like most cats, she focusses on her game not on everyone else. She sometimes forgets what her 'fun' might mean to those on the receiving end. How strange that it should be Dick who is able to get through to her rather than Bruce. Of course, familiarity breeds contempt. Selina may be so used to ignoring Bruce's intermittent bouts of paranoia and moral rigidity that she is no longer able to automatically recognise when he is right. This may yet be a cathartic experience for her, reminding her to take Bruce, and their relationship, a bit more seriously. That is assuming that the whole mess doesn't explode in her face. I wonder how far Dr. Bart is really getting with Harley. Isolated from 'Mistah J', she does seem to get a bit more clear-headed. However, as the 'Mummy' prank shows, Joker is as incurable as ever. The moment she is back with him, any progress will be lost. Hmm... Paging Dr. Pamela Isley. Dr. Pamela Isley, please go to the white courtesy phone. Spoiler Below! [+] Like other reviewers, I am convinced that the guy making that drop-off for Selina is Bruce. Given that he is a master strategist, I wonder what his plan might be. Could Kitty be about to have some water thrown at her to tell her she has been a bad cat? I will be most interested to see where this is going to go next. This is promising to be the next major hump in the Bat/Cat relationship. BenRG's Rating: 8/10 P.S.: Is this Dick's Catwoman smilie? >^^< ~~~~ They call me BenRG* But... I don't know why... ~~~*~ Last Edited By: BenRG 10/30/07 05:41. Edited 1 time.
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Chris Dee		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 731 10/30/07 08:07	Ben! My man! Here I was searching the reviews for a nifty quote to pluck for all those places where I display the cover. And there you are: kitty's gotta play with the toy, she does indeed. Your entire outline of the situation demonstrates a perfect understanding of Selina's makeup, flaws and all. Hence the difference you noted in who could persuade her: Bruce's approach centered on the innocents on the East End. As we've seen, Selina doesn't CARE about the people on the East End. She cares about Bruce - which was the crux of Nightwing's appeal. Like a happy cat, she is indeed mischievous and focused on her game; not on anyone else. If you're going to draw someone to her attention, it better be someone she gives a shit about, otherwise it's just another tendril spooling off the ball of yarn. And yes, that's Nightwing's emoticon. On a technical note, the IE people who were experiencing runtime errors on certain pages in the website, I think the problem is fixed.
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Nodrogs		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 217 10/31/07 21:44	Great story, want to know what Bruce's link to the hummer guy is. As for Plastic Man: I hope he keeps an emergancy egg of Silly Putty at the Watch Tower. What I want to know: What's Al Ghul's reaction to all this? With his respect for the Great Detective, he has to assume the Detective setting his consort up as queen of Gotham's underworld is some elaborate plot of Batman.
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NathanPerry.gothampm		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 388 11/01/07 00:32 Gothamite	He's been busy trying to convince the Post that he is, in fact, alive. They've accepted that, but apparently decided he's a mummy.
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stephensmat2		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1132 11/01/07 05:12	You're worrying about the Demonhead? I'm still on the edge of my seat waiting to see what's next with Tim and Cass.
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Abaddon8780		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 345 11/01/07 06:15 Titans Together!	I'm not entirely convinced that our Limo Guy is in cahoots with Bruce. Could be a Mafia guy, could be something completely different. Let's not count our chickens before they're hatched. "And sometimes," Tim muttered, "it's like living with a bunch of second graders." -Learning Curve
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ichigenka.gothampm		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 247 11/01/07 09:12	Nice chap, i love the Selina/Dick interaction. No matter how grown up he becomes or how respect he is as hero, he's always gonna be the voice cracking, parking lot evidence gathering, pun spewing side kick when he's in front of Catwoman :D. Ok here's my take on Limo guy. He's a new player. Sly basically knows EVERYONE in the Gotham underworld and ANYONE in the Gotham underworld knows you DON'T STALK SLY. I mean who hasn't heard the story about when Sly went to Florida and some of the highest tiered rogues (INCLUDING THE FREAKING JOKER) went there to get him back. If anything happened to Sly, the Gotham underworld would conduct such a man hunt that even Bats would be (slightly) impressed. Great stuff. Right now I'm saying it's J'onn on behest of the JLA. I mean Bruce is probably wound so tight even Diana would set aside "cohorting with former villains is not the path to righteousness speech #52" just to get him off their back . Oh the error of comedies that would insure :D.
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stephensmat2		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1132 11/06/07 06:44	I think the Limo guy COULD be Bruce, but I wouldn't put money on it. See, the last two stories have been about how there are two Rogues Batman never got. Penguin and Catwoman. Selina went through a few hissyfits at the idea of her moving into the Manor meant Batman had finally caged the cat, and now suddenly Penguin's empire is broken, and Catwoman takes the throne. Tell me that isn't ruffling a few… I almost said 'feathers'. So on the off chance it's Bruce in the limo, or someone at his order, then he's either taking this opportunity to see how the empire works now that the King's not running things personally, or Batman's taking this opportunity to try another way in. Selina can take an offer from Wayne Enterprises without outing Bruce as Batman. Oswald could never have accepted an illegal overture from Wayne without secrets getting compromised. Bruce has another way to fight the new Underworld master.
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NathanPerry.gothampm		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 388 11/06/07 10:05 Gothamite	Mmmm I don't think so. While I do think Limo-guy could be Bruce, he's almost certainly in disguise if he is. Proceeding on the assumption that Limo-guy=Bruce, first off, he's going to Sly rather than Selina. While Sly has seen Bruce, Batman and Matches Malone, there's no indication he's made any connection between any of them, whereas Selina would spot him if he was in clown makeup. He's doing this because he doesn't want Selina to know what he's up to. Sly certainly knows Selina lives with Bruce, so any approach of Syl AS Bruce Wayne would make its way back to Catwoman.
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travisbickle275		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 93 11/08/07 16:01	[Sidenote] Well, the name War of the Poses seems a take off of the War of the Roses, from European History. If I recall correctly, it was a civil war between two branches of a single family. Which is what we seem to be having here. You are more or less right, Letomo. The Wars of the Roses were a series of wars in England between feuding factions, the Yorkists and the Lancastrians, both of whom claimed the legitimate heir to the English throne. Ultimately, it came down to a battle between King Richard III, a Yorkist, and Henry Tudor, a Lancastrian. Their armies fought, with Henry triumphing, becoming King Henry VII, father of the more famous King Henry VIII (he of the 6 wives). Richard was killed in battle, giving rise to (I think) Shakespeare's immortal line, "My horse, my horse, my kingdom for a horse" (I could be very wrong about that), as well as the children's saying, Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain, a way of remembering the order of the colours of the rainbow (take the first letters to see it). The War of the Roses was so called (many years afterward) because the symbol of each faction was a rose - Red for Lancaster, and White for Yorkshire. When Henry VII became King, he took as his bride a woman from the house of York, uniting the factions and (more or less) ending their feud. His personal symbol was changed to show a rose with both white and red petals, symbolising the union.[/Sidenote] Chris has shown before she has a very good understanding of European history (I was very impressed by the Wayne family tree), so any or all of those themes might well come out in the story. ;)
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Wingnut.gothampm	The East Side	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8 11/09/07 17:09	BenRG wrote: More importantly, she is forgetting that most universal of facts - those are real people out there. As much as tormenting the East Side for its associations with goggles!Catwoman might be fun, there are innocent people being caught in the crossfire. Worse, because it is fun, she ignores how Bruce will react and, because she is used to him being uptight, initially ignores his reaction. Like any happy cat, she is mischievious and playful. Like most cats, she focusses on her game not on everyone else. She sometimes forgets what her 'fun' might mean to those on the receiving end. Long-time reader, and tried to post before, but never could make the system work for me! I do want to add on to Ben's comments here - as someone who works with the kind of communities that the East Side seems to be, I wonder at Selina's blind spot to those who live in that type of area - not by choice, but by economic necessity. These are the people who have the most to lose - what little they have - and setting the East Side up as a "playground" for the thugs doesn't seem like the woman the Post ignores. She reads the paper - surely she's seen how the crime spree there has affected that community.She cares about the wounded cat - does she really think less of a wounded child? I have great faith in Selina (and her documentor - is that a word?) - and look forward to the next chapter. Limo? Limo?
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Chris Dee		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 731 11/14/07 12:28	Chapter 2: Cat and that Mousey Thing, now on the Cat-Tales website and at FanFiction.net whenever their server catches up with itself. Far be it from me to tell anyone where to read their cyberfic, but the damn site is buggy. Again. Recommend using the website and this message board to avoid complications. --Chris Dee Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Superpowers corrupts - superbly. --Identity Element
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BenRG	Chapter 2 - The Cat and Mousey Thing	#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 282 11/14/07 13:01	This is a very interesting chapter. It has been a long time since Selina and Eddie spent any time together. Eddie is highly intelligent and is as close to sane that most Rogue Alphas can hope to get, so a conversation with him is always very revealing. Besides, as a habitual setter and solver of puzzles, Eddie is always useful to we, the readers, in helping to disentange the various issues in the main characters' psyches. Of course, Eddie is also pretty much the epitome of the 'weasel' personality type. Watching him freak out when he thought Bruce was coming to beat on him for a disrespectful remark made me snort tea onto my monitor. wipes monitor clean... ish The subplot with the android Superman was interesting. The idea of having the story written out in a series of Bat Logs was a new idea for Cat Tales and gave you the odd reassurance of reading an adventure whilst knowing that Bruce is okay as he came back to record the logs. Quoth the Green Question Mark Guy Guy in a Hummer limo has a note for the gal in a purple Lamborghini. I need a better car. Amen, Eduardo, amen. I just want to say how I love your portrayal of Dick Greyson/Nightwing. A lot of people either make him a joker, a loser or (like a certain F. Miller) a psycopathic homicidal loser. You make him effective, human, three-dimentional and friendly. I doubt that Selina sees him as a son the way that Bruce does. It is more likely that he is her slightly crazy and always annoying little brother who she still loves to bits, even when he exasperates her. Spoiler Ahoy! [+] Oh! So Hummer-guy is Lex! Well, that could be interesting. He might want to approach Bruce through Selina in an attempt to buy back his company. Or, he might share Ra's idiotic idea that Selina is somehow Bruce's weakness and he intends to use her either as a pawn, a stalking horse or a mole. Or... he might still be getting over his 'power fix' crash and wants to know if she can put him in touch with Jason Blood so he can get another hit. Overall, this is a bridging chapter. We have moved away from the set up and introduction and we are seeing the pieces moving into their position so that the overall story (or, in this case, stories) that will be in this edition of Cat Tales are defined for us. This looks like an intreguing and mysterious story and I look forward to seeing more. BenRG's Rating: 7.5/10 ~~~~ They call me BenRG* But... I don't know why... ~~~*~
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ichigenka.gothampm		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 247 11/14/07 13:09	oooooooo love the twist. Spoiler [+] it's good to see Lex out of the Tylenol capsule suit, it was about time he got back in the game. Who better to igrore the "Sly = hands off" rule of the Gotham world and someone who considers them all beneath him :D Yay for Eddie.... hmm seems like he's still stuck on Doris. So very sad. Can't wait for whatever dastardly proposal comes out next :D.
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JabberwockyPie		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 53 11/14/07 15:41	I think that Spoiler [+] Lex is somehow connected to Bruce and Clark's mission. I remember a really great Batman Adventures comic where Eddie made a bunch of money selling stuff he'd designed, so he went straight but he was BORED, so he kept sending riddles to Batman that implied someone was in danger, but he really just wanted to play Chess with him.
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karanne		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 11/14/07 18:07	Hey, Chris! Chappie #2 - it's bothering me. How does Eddie get 72 puzzles in a week?
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